No Man's Sky

[c4lu]

Esta jodido mirarse todo el video, es medio irritante la voz del gallego, jajajaja y la remata con un oh yeah. Yo creo que el error mas grande que tuvieron fue venderlo a 60USD, y Bueno lo del multiplayer ya es otra cosa, no existe la chance que los jugadores que no se vieron y supuestamente estaban en el mismo planeta, no hayan estado en el mismo planeta, que el generador de planetas haya generado 2 planetas iguales o casi iguales?

Es imposible encontrarse con otro jugador principalmente porque tendrían que estar en un mismo servidor para poder interactuar con el mismo planeta (no sé si el simple hecho de poder verse necesita de un mismo servidor, pero para interactuar sí o si se necesita). El juego es offline, local, lo único online es el nombrado de boludeces.

Un servidor que abarque todo el "universo" me parece imposible, y más imposible aún un servidor por planeta.


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[dDaunloz]

bueno, no habia visto las declaraciones del dev

yo creo que se fue de boca, se lo notaba nervioso

igual defendiendo lo indefendible... se puede jugar a un juego con un amigo sin tener mp... con @Walt le estamos dando fuerte al banished


PD. buena firma @c4lu

[Walt]

El MP en un juego te cambia totalmente la perspectiva; el Damned es un juego de mierda, pero jugado con la gente correcta es muy divertido y atrapante. Obviamente esta gente no dio bien el primer paso, pero hoy en día todo el mundo mira lo malo y no lo bueno. Considerando un juego de exploración a nivel universal, que puedas mandarte por ahí y ver lo que pueden hacer algunos algoritmos mal organizados es genial. xD

No te pago 60 dólares por ver accidentes computacionales, pero igual es divertido. :P

[eelnico09]

i5 3570k @ 4.2ghz y gtx 970, injugable en win 8.1 x64.


No updateo drivers de video hace rato, será eso

[dDaunloz]

i7 4770k @ stock + 780 + 16GB 1600... anda barbaro, con algun drop ocasional despreciable

fijate que no este capeado a 30, ahi si tenia tremendos drops y freezeos, asi como el cancer al hacer un paneo con el mouse

[Sick_Mushroom]

Gente, no alimenten al troll, dejen de contestar que el post muere solito.

[Legolas]

Lo de mi firma.
Andaaa... ahí.
Después de salir me acordé lo del Gsync, lo desactivé y no volví a entrar. Ésta tarde/noche lo pruebo de nuevo.

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[Arcangel]

Gente, no alimenten al troll, dejen de contestar que el post muere solito.

Troll 2??

XD

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[GeNetiC]

Para que no decaiga la discusión y el bardo les dejo este link de reddit, donde un camarada ennumera todas las cosas que dijeron que tenia el juego y no tiene, con quotes y fuentes de cuando lo dijeron. Son muchas.

https://np.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyThe...es_a_big_list/

[Galas]

Para que no decaiga la discusión y el bardo les dejo este link de reddit, donde un camarada ennumera todas las cosas que dijeron que tenia el juego y no tiene, con quotes y fuentes de cuando lo dijeron. Son muchas.

https://np.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyThe...es_a_big_list/

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[Juancho]

@Galas y @GeNetiC

OP: https://np.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyThe...on_front_page/

Varias de las cosas que menciona si estan en el juego, los planetas si tienen diferentes recursos y abundancia de cada uno. El plutonio esta en todos porque es un elemento vital, ponele que si un planeta no tiene plutonio podrias quedar inmobilizado en el mismo ya que para despegar la nave necesitas plutonio... En cierto aspecto, hay una relacion entre recursos y tipo de planeta, cuanto mas docil el planeta, menos raros sus recursos. Pero hay variedad. Por ejemplo, cobre he encontrado solo en planetas con atmosfera peligrosa que tienen muy poca vida. Lo que te da una pauta de la riqueza de recursos en un planeta es la actividad de los sentinelas, encontre uno con esferas de gravitino que basicamente financio mi nueva nave. En el planeta nomas baje me marcaba que la presencia de sentinelas era hostil. Tambien el tipo de estrella define la rareza de los recursos.

Sobre las razas, el comercio y la fisica de planetas si se corto mucho, seguramente porque no llegaban a la fecha, no descarto que lo vayan agregando de a poco. Igual sobre las razas, hay ciertas cosas implementadas, uno puede tener afinidad con una raza basado en cuanto sabe de su lenguaje, por ejemplo a los korvax le entiendo casi todo ya a esta altura, por ende siempre voy a preferir interactuar con ellos y robar blueprints de sus fabricas.

A mi lo que sin duda me desagrada mas es la imposibilidad de volar bajo y la falta de un buen scanner en la nave, algo que te permita ver los recursos desde arriba sin tener que bajar. Despues de unas cuantas horas le estoy agarrando mas la mano a como sacar mayor provecho a todo.

[Juancho]

juancho, vos que le diste mas, con los animales podes hacer algo? aparte de darles de comer? note que te ayudan a encontrar elementos si lo haces, pero mas nada

If you get close to the nice ones, you can feed them to befriend them. The biggest upshot to befriending animals is that they’ll sometimes do stuff for you, like fight off other animals or poop out rare materials. This is the major benefit, in fact, of being nice to animals, other than that it’ll be easier to take their picture with the PlaySation 4’s screen-capping capabilities.

[dDaunloz]

lel

[TryXanel]

No man's fail.


ya perdio el 90% del playerbase de los que arrancaron las primeras semanas XD


todo el mundo quemado con el jueguito...

Triste x los que pagaron U$S60 por el humo/hype


copypasta de reddit:

Spoiler: 

The sad thing is that even if you forget all of the lies by Hello Games and how they completely misrepresented the game and continue to do so (just look at their Steam page, it still shows the E3 videos which are nothing like the game) and even if you knew nothing about the game and expected only an relaxing space exploration/survival game, it doesn't deliver anything close to a satisfactory experience unless you're drugged out of your mind. There is literally zero reason to explore past the first 5 hours and zero reason to go to the center of the universe, which is the biggest letdown I've ever had in gaming.

• It doesn't actually feel like a real universe, there are no planetary physics and gravity is the same on all planets. There are no actual solar systems. The planets don't rotate around a sun but are stationary, sitting together in a blob. The moons don't even go around the planets.
  
• All of the various wonders of the universe (neutron stars, supernovas, pulsars...etc) are entirely absent. There are no systems with a dozen planets, or gas giants, or even ringed planets.
  
• There are no stars, they're just part of the skybox but you can't fly to them.
  
• The 18 quintillion planets that was so heavily marketed isn't impressive when you realize what that actually means: if you took 11 things and come up with 50 variations for each, that is close to 18 quintillion combinations. Most planets are entirely the same but with different bumps and colors, they have the same objects on them and largely the same resources. Once you've seen the first dozen planets, you've seen them all.
  
• There is no actual differences between the ships, except the number of inventory slots. There are no ships specializing for say speed or combat.
  
• You can't actually fly between these systems or go into say the dark space or outer asteroid belt. The only way to travel between them is to open up the map and click warp, which initiates a loading screen animation and loads up the new planets. There is no deep space. You feel like you're in an instance with 3 or 4 planets that are mostly the same, then you load up a new skybox with a new set of similar planets. It's nothing like say Space Engine, where you actually do get a true sense that you're in a real universe.
  
• You can't even fly your ship. You can't fly low across a planet as there is an invisible boundary and you can't crash your ship. The controls are terrible, it has none of the complexity of other space flight sims.
  
• You can't manually land your ship, you simply press a button for it to autoland. Tons of other maneuvers (like entering a space station) are entirely autopilot.
  
• The asteroids which are everywhere have insane pop-in issues, they only show up like 50 meters in front of you. Same while you're on land, the pop-in can get absurd at times.
  
• The freight ships don't move, they just sit there passively forever. They add zero gameplay depth.
  
• The space stations are all basically the same.
  
• The planets are littered with outposts, all identical and with a single NPC alien standing still and staring into the wall.
  
• The NPCs are entirely shallow, there is literally no point to even talking to them since they never say anything interesting and simply give you something random you likely don't need. Even the automated quest giving NPCs in Bethesda games that hand out those Radiant AI quests would be a massive improvement.
  
• All of the monoliths are the same, it's nothing but a chore to chase them down. The words you learn don't add any depth to your interactions with the aliens, since they never have anything interesting to say anyway.
  
• There are no actual biomes on each planet. Each planet is the same no matter where you land.
  
• The animals are build on 14 different skeleton designs, with a bunch of random animal parts scrapped on top of each section to maximize the number of permutations and there is no attempt to make the animal make any sense in it's environment or have anything unique in it's behavior. The animals have no evolutionary history and animal AI is practically non-existent.
  
• There are no tall trees like were shows in E3, they're all saplings. There are no large forests, no large creatures. There are no large valleys, huge mountain peaks, no giant volcanos, all terrain is uniformly similar across planets.
  
• The grinding which makes up most of the game is not only boring, but frustrating due to the completely messed up inventory management.
  
• You don't have a sense of scope / scale to your journey. In the galactic map you can see other stars but there's no sense of where you are in relation to the center of the universe. Likewise you don't have a way to track where you were. No mapping or history, waypoints or other ways of tracking your progress. There needs to be a way to see how you're progressing and also give some meaning to how far you've gone.
  
• The interface is absolutely atrocious. It's amazing that it can be messed up this bad, the fact that we need a mod just to remove the requirement that you have to hold each click for a second speaks volumes. You need to load up a menu to do anything, and the menus are terribly designed and completely unintuitative.
  
• The game is a technical mess. It looks like ass yet runs with all sorts of framerate issues.
  
• The traveling on foot is insanely slow and tedious. There should have been a buggy or car, or at least some sort of fast jet pack like in Tribes.
  
• It fails as a survival game since nothing in the game leaves you threatened. Each planet is seeded with abundant resources, and the few things that do attack you are easily defeated. Compare to minecraft where there's a very definite risk / reward system to exploring a deep cave system. Nothing really threatens you in a meaningful way.
  
• It fails as a chillout game as the interface and warnings are constantly annoying you. Every 3 minutes you get a "Life Support Systems Low" warning when its at 75%. You are constantly pushed to mine more in order to fill out your life support system, it's nothing like Journey or Abzu where you chill out. And the "Milestones" interrupt you almost non-stop, taking away control to play a pointless milestone cutscene.
  
• The different minerals and resources don't really matter. Since most of the upgrades to explore the universe are yours within the first hour / two hours all the rest are kind of nice add ons.
  
• There's no challenge to exploring. There's very little combat and what combat there is is very boring.
  
• You never actually feel you are discovering any planet, every single planet and moon has been colonized. They all have outposts everywhere. Every system has a space station. You never truly go where no one hasn't already settled.
  
• Inside a solar system there's no way to decide if a planet is interesting or not without actually visiting it. There should be some 'classification' of the planets e.g. class M, class X, etc that allows you to say a certain type of planet might be safe vs unsafe.
  
• All planets are accessible right from the start of the game. I was excited about the idea of acid planets, radioactive planets, cold planets ... I was thinking that in order to explore a radioactive planet you'd need to craft some special gear. There was a pretty obviously gameplay loop where the dangerous planets had better minerals / ruins / whatever but were very hard to explore. Instead every planet is basically just a copy of the others.
  
• The constant need to recharge things, which don't really serve a purpose. It makes the game very grindy without any positive feedback. Instead of feeling free to explore the world around me I feel annoyed that if I see something cool it means 30 seconds of tedium while I mine the abundant plutonium. I end up not landing and exploring because of how annoying it is that to take off again I have to enter a menu and recharge my ship.
  
• None of the aliens interact with each other or have any sort of AI other than 'walk around a bit'. There's nothing to sit and watch. An occasional ship will fly overhead but they don't do anything. You never really see a battle take place or the ships acting in any sort of interesting manner.
  
• The ending is straight up insulting. It's the worst ending in any game I have ever played.

This is a textbook case of why hype culture is cancerous to gaming, it leads to companies looking to hype as many people into preordering then sitting back and releasing a shallow, broken game. This game is completely empty and lifeless, with nothing to do but go around looking at things you've already seen copy pasted for the millionth time.

[Arcangel]

Bueno, Steam va a devolver el dinero a todo el mundo que quiera devolver el juego, independientemente si ya jugaron mas de dos horas al mismo.




Hyper FAIL este juego.


P.D: el final del video imperdible

[CYRU5]

Jaja, la rompe el flaco ese, 2x3 vicho algún que otro video de él o sasel ... la verdad que si, ni trucho merece la pena ser descargado

Ni siquiera lo compré y me siento estafado y todo jajajaja

[Dodsferd]

Preorder ftw

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[delapropia]

Esto va para todos aquellos que defienden a veces a capa y espada argumentos que son indefendibles, como aquellos youtubers como dijo Jino en su vídeo que decían en sus vídeos que era 1 juego excepcional porque les habían dado unos miles de euros, y ese juego excepcional ya perdió el 90% o más de sus video jugadores a 2-3 semanas de haber salido, y no contentos con eso ya están devolviendo el dinero en masa. También es una victoria contra ellos.

Y como este hay varios juegos más que hubieran merecido el mismo trato, como Evolve, Hitman Absolution, Mortal Kombat X, etc etc etc.

[Juancho]

Esta bien, quedaron en el mercado a donde pertenece el juego, un mercado chico de juegos de exploracion, y solo las personas que le gustan ese tipo de juegos van a quedarselo.

Sigo pensando que no es mal juego, pero si fue muy sobrevendido, seguro que si no lo hypeaban hubiera tenido buenas reviews

[Naked Snake]

Esto va para todos aquellos que defienden a veces a capa y espada argumentos que son indefendibles, como aquellos youtubers como dijo Jino en su vídeo que decían en sus vídeos que era 1 juego excepcional porque les habían dado unos miles de euros, y ese juego excepcional ya perdió el 90% o más de sus video jugadores a 2-3 semanas de haber salido, y no contentos con eso ya están devolviendo el dinero en masa. También es una victoria contra ellos.

Y como este hay varios juegos más que hubieran merecido el mismo trato, como Evolve, Hitman Absolution, Mortal Kombat X, etc etc etc.

Es un tema de gustos, el que lo defiende es por que le gusta, no podes decirle nada, capaz que te dice si, le faltan cosas que dijeron que el juego iba a tener, pero les guata igual y esta perfecto.

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